tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27807460.post116184844607985245..comments2023-12-22T04:42:24.341-05:00Comments on Wishydig: Speaking TrippinglyWishydighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06141057866370676641noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27807460.post-1162339104777456642006-10-31T18:58:00.000-05:002006-10-31T18:58:00.000-05:00Sure. Put all the native Spanish speakers in FLL ...Sure. Put all the native Spanish speakers in FLL in a crucible: force them to explain to you the difference between their accents and listen to how they emphasize or exaggerate certain vowels and consonants. After you say "huh?" 3 or 4 times some of them might start to alter the vowel from what their actual pronunciation is. Do you see a trend? Is there some quality of certain alternations that get special attention when being used contrastively?Wishydighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06141057866370676641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27807460.post-1162181521999868692006-10-29T23:12:00.000-05:002006-10-29T23:12:00.000-05:00Hey Michael, Do you have any brilliant ideas for a...Hey Michael, Do you have any brilliant ideas for a paper topic in my Spanish Phonology, Phonetics and Dialectology class?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27807460.post-1162114533210979242006-10-29T04:35:00.000-05:002006-10-29T04:35:00.000-05:00But I still think the context informs the words. ...But I still think the context informs the words. It's not extremely common for the framework surrounding a sentence to lend itself both to a writer AND a rider, for example.<BR/><BR/>But then I suppose one could hear, as another pulls out a shirt from the wash, a fiery complaint--and we might never know whether the disgust related to size or color, to wideness or whiteness. <BR/><BR/>And what a brouhaha THAT would be.Buffy Turnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01867498681528614443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27807460.post-1162022008368441682006-10-28T03:53:00.000-04:002006-10-28T03:53:00.000-04:00Not a confusion twixt whiter and writer but whiter...Not a confusion twixt whiter and writer but whiter and wider, and rider and writer. Ask Michael, I'm sure he'll share.<BR/><BR/>And I'm completely on board with Michael's actual ideas. I was just taking issue with the analogy.<BR/><BR/>It is funny you mention how "conspicuously affected pronounciation" can be a downfall. I'd like to think my persona is hurt by my careful words.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03486681777716496640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27807460.post-1161984471450405372006-10-27T17:27:00.000-04:002006-10-27T17:27:00.000-04:00But unless we're playing football with ourselves, ...But unless we're playing football with ourselves, running a football is not a mere individual task. <BR/><BR/>And efficient speech can also be effective, just as conspicuously affected pronunciation can interfere with or distract from the more important topic at hand. <BR/><BR/>Of course if confusion is truly the result of this efficient speaking, I'm completely with Daniel, but where there's no uncertainty, I rather champion Michael's duly-termed (since it's my speech that's to be submitted, of course) balance and agility. <BR/><BR/>And seriously, what sort of context would leave a person wondering if the speaker said, "writer," or "whiter?" Seriously.Buffy Turnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01867498681528614443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27807460.post-1161911649994748092006-10-26T21:14:00.000-04:002006-10-26T21:14:00.000-04:00I bring issue to your analogy. Movement, opening a...I bring issue to your analogy. Movement, opening a door, running a football, picking up a saucer, is a personal and individual task. It makes sense to add grace and efficiency to our movements. <BR/><BR/>I think speech should be interactive. So when we're communicating with another, clarity is important. That awkward [t] might be important when stressing writer or whiter. Yes, there are many ways to effectively communicate, including some "tripping" language, depending on our audience, but efficient speech doesn't mean effective speech.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for some quality quodlibet.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03486681777716496640noreply@blogger.com